Stream: rustdoc

Topic: discord forwarding


view this post on Zulip Noah Lev (Feb 16 2021 at 20:20):

I wonder if there's a way to forward all Discord messages in #rustdoc to a topic named 'discord' or something. That way people (ahem, me) would not miss rustdoc-related messages because they were in Discord.

view this post on Zulip Joshua Nelson (Feb 16 2021 at 20:20):

I think we should just close the rustdoc channel, it's been a few months. @GuillaumeGomez are you ok with that?

view this post on Zulip Joshua Nelson (Feb 16 2021 at 20:21):

Camelid said:

I wonder if there's a way to forward all Discord messages in #rustdoc to a topic named 'discord' or something. That way people (ahem, me) would not miss rustdoc-related messages because they were in Discord.

forwarding is nice for Zulip users but doesn't help discord users much because they don't see other topics

view this post on Zulip Noah Lev (Feb 16 2021 at 20:22):

Yeah, but I thought others might be opposed to closing the Discord channel :)

view this post on Zulip Noah Lev (Feb 16 2021 at 20:22):

And it would at least be an improvement over the current situation.

view this post on Zulip GuillaumeGomez (Feb 16 2021 at 20:22):

I am, just sad about it and a bit afraid since we still have people coming through discord and not zulip

view this post on Zulip GuillaumeGomez (Feb 16 2021 at 20:22):

And I still find zulip awful.

view this post on Zulip Noah Lev (Feb 16 2021 at 20:23):

And I find Discord awful :upside_down:

view this post on Zulip GuillaumeGomez (Feb 16 2021 at 20:23):

I find discord awful too XD

view this post on Zulip Joshua Nelson (Feb 16 2021 at 20:23):

hmm I think @Nemo157 is the one who uses discord the most - would you prefer a zulip bridge?

view this post on Zulip GuillaumeGomez (Feb 16 2021 at 20:23):

should we go to matrix? I just created an account and it's working fine XD

view this post on Zulip Joshua Nelson (Feb 16 2021 at 20:23):

@Camelid note that someone has to be on the hook for implementing it

view this post on Zulip Noah Lev (Feb 16 2021 at 20:23):

GuillaumeGomez said:

should we go to matrix? I just created an account and it's working fine XD

Yeah, I used to use Matrix but it has all the downsides of Discord

view this post on Zulip GuillaumeGomez (Feb 16 2021 at 20:24):

oh right, maybe put the discord chan private to allow nemo to interact with us then?

view this post on Zulip Noah Lev (Feb 16 2021 at 20:24):

Joshua Nelson said:

Camelid note that someone has to be on the hook for implementing it

Yeah, I thought maybe someone else might already know how to do it (like on T-infra)

view this post on Zulip Joshua Nelson (Feb 16 2021 at 20:24):

you should ask that in #t-infra

view this post on Zulip GuillaumeGomez (Feb 16 2021 at 20:24):

what do you think about my suggestion?

view this post on Zulip GuillaumeGomez (Feb 16 2021 at 20:25):

at the very least, it'd make zulip the official way to contact us

view this post on Zulip Noah Lev (Feb 16 2021 at 20:25):

I didn't fully understand it, could you explain a bit more?

view this post on Zulip GuillaumeGomez (Feb 16 2021 at 20:25):

until we add a bridge or whatever

view this post on Zulip Noah Lev (Feb 16 2021 at 20:25):

Maybe we could start with forwarding/bridging if T-infra knows how and move fully to Discord if people agree?

view this post on Zulip GuillaumeGomez (Feb 16 2021 at 20:25):

simply making the rustdoc channel private on discord until we figure out the bridge thing

view this post on Zulip GuillaumeGomez (Feb 16 2021 at 20:25):

wait what?

view this post on Zulip GuillaumeGomez (Feb 16 2021 at 20:26):

aren't we doing the opposite like allowing discord messages to come here? XD

view this post on Zulip Noah Lev (Feb 16 2021 at 20:26):

My proposal was forward Discord to Zulip.

view this post on Zulip Noah Lev (Feb 16 2021 at 20:27):

Yours is make the rustdoc channel private?

view this post on Zulip Noah Lev (Feb 16 2021 at 20:27):

Isn't that effectively the same as closing it?

view this post on Zulip Noah Lev (Feb 16 2021 at 20:27):

Opened https://rust-lang.zulipchat.com/#narrow/stream/242791-t-infra/topic/forwarding.20Discord.20to.20Zulip btw.

view this post on Zulip GuillaumeGomez (Feb 16 2021 at 20:27):

No, I simply said to turn the discord channel private until the bridge thing is done

view this post on Zulip GuillaumeGomez (Feb 16 2021 at 20:28):

my proposition doesn't exclude yours haha

view this post on Zulip Noah Lev (Feb 16 2021 at 20:29):

So essentially "close it to the public" until we get bridging set up and then re-open it?

view this post on Zulip Noah Lev (Feb 16 2021 at 20:29):

I would imagine setting up bridging (if T-infra knows how) wouldn't take that long.

view this post on Zulip Joshua Nelson (Feb 16 2021 at 20:29):

all this seems more complicated than it needs to be

view this post on Zulip Joshua Nelson (Feb 16 2021 at 20:30):

I'm ambivalent to either forwarding or closing the channel, but I don't see much point in making it private

view this post on Zulip GuillaumeGomez (Feb 16 2021 at 20:30):

ok ok

view this post on Zulip Noah Lev (Feb 16 2021 at 20:30):

Yeah, I still don't fully understand the turning it private thing

view this post on Zulip GuillaumeGomez (Feb 16 2021 at 20:31):

I thought you wanted to close it but still wanted to keep in touch with nemo?

view this post on Zulip Noah Lev (Feb 16 2021 at 20:45):

Ah, does Nemo not use Zulip?

view this post on Zulip Noah Lev (Feb 16 2021 at 20:46):

If T-infra think they can set up forwarding for us, that would at least be a good start. If not, we'll have to figure out what to do.

view this post on Zulip Noah Lev (Feb 17 2021 at 00:53):

simulacrum said:

Not at this time, I don't think.

view this post on Zulip Noah Lev (Feb 17 2021 at 00:54):

So unless someone else on T-infra knows how, looks like that's a dead end.

view this post on Zulip apiraino (Feb 18 2021 at 10:22):

my .2 cents on the matter (that nobody asked ^^):

I understand the problem here and I cringe when communities (even relatively small such as rustdoc) are split because proprietary platforms obtusely refuse to interoperate with open protocols.

view this post on Zulip Noah Lev (Feb 18 2021 at 16:01):

forwarding messages from Discord is IMO unpractical, I'm afraid we would receive a non-actionable "read-only" copy, more akin to a notification and only on a selected number of supported receivers. If I have to go back to Discord to reply, I feel like I've lost the advantage.

To me, that's better than nothing. But it seems T-infra is not able to set it up at this point.

view this post on Zulip Joshua Nelson (Feb 18 2021 at 16:01):

I would rather just archive the #rustdoc discord

view this post on Zulip GuillaumeGomez (Feb 18 2021 at 18:17):

That's why I suggested to switch the discord channel to private: if the goal is to make people go here for questions but to keep contact with nemo, it seems like a good in-between.


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