Stream: zulip

Topic: Rustdoc is finally thinking about zulip


view this post on Zulip Joshua Nelson (Nov 24 2020 at 14:19):

@simulacrum @Pietro Albini could one of you make a new zulip stream we could use?

view this post on Zulip simulacrum (Nov 24 2020 at 14:19):

Sure!

view this post on Zulip GuillaumeGomez (Nov 24 2020 at 14:20):

I wonder if I made the right call now...

view this post on Zulip Joshua Nelson (Nov 24 2020 at 14:20):

did you want to make it t-rustdoc for consistency?

view this post on Zulip simulacrum (Nov 24 2020 at 14:20):

We can always sunset it if you decide to opt back out.

view this post on Zulip simulacrum (Nov 24 2020 at 14:21):

I've since learned that t- prefixes don't work well with Zulip's stream search, so we'll just leave it as is unless you object.

view this post on Zulip Joshua Nelson (Nov 24 2020 at 14:21):

sounds good to me :) thanks!

view this post on Zulip nikomatsakis (Dec 15 2020 at 15:24):

simulacrum said:

I've since learned that t- prefixes don't work well with Zulip's stream search, so we'll just leave it as is unless you object.

I would like to remove them bt haven't gotten around to proposing a new setup

view this post on Zulip Noah Lev (Dec 15 2020 at 20:46):

FYI it seems like the issue is that the search is entirely prefix-based.

view this post on Zulip Noah Lev (Dec 15 2020 at 20:46):

So searching for compiler doesn't work, but t-compiler does.

view this post on Zulip Noah Lev (Dec 15 2020 at 20:54):

Opened an issue: zulip/zulip#16902

view this post on Zulip Josh Triplett (Dec 15 2020 at 22:46):

@nikomatsakis Do we need a whole new setup, or could we just propose dropping all the t- prefixes?

view this post on Zulip Josh Triplett (Dec 15 2020 at 22:47):

That doesn't preclude us from making other changes in the future.

view this post on Zulip Josh Triplett (Dec 15 2020 at 22:47):

My bigger concern would be if it breaks links.

view this post on Zulip Joshua Nelson (Dec 15 2020 at 22:47):

I would rather see this fixed in zulip personally

view this post on Zulip Léo Lanteri Thauvin (Dec 15 2020 at 22:48):

I think the stream name in a Zulip link just gets ignored?

view this post on Zulip Léo Lanteri Thauvin (Dec 15 2020 at 22:49):

For example, https://rust-lang.zulipchat.com/#narrow/stream/122653-aaa/topic/Rustdoc.20is.20finally.20thinking.20about.20zulip/near/220054355

view this post on Zulip Léo Lanteri Thauvin (Dec 15 2020 at 22:49):

Still points to the message above even though I changed the stream name

view this post on Zulip Léo Lanteri Thauvin (Dec 15 2020 at 22:50):

(I'm assuming that the ID of the stream won't change, of course)

view this post on Zulip simulacrum (Dec 15 2020 at 22:55):

yes to my knowledge we can just rename

view this post on Zulip simulacrum (Dec 15 2020 at 22:56):

it might be confusing to see e.g. t-compiler in docs but i am not too worried

view this post on Zulip isHavvy (Dec 17 2020 at 08:11):

Can't we change it to compiler-t?

view this post on Zulip nikomatsakis (Dec 17 2020 at 10:30):

Just dropping t- and wg- etc would be a start

view this post on Zulip nikomatsakis (Dec 17 2020 at 10:30):

My main concern is not Zulip search, it's more (a) length and (b) intimidation/jargon factor

view this post on Zulip isHavvy (Dec 17 2020 at 10:36):

Well, each channel has a description as well that can include "team" or "working group" in it. It might make sense to get a standard format for the channel description though, since they vary quite a lot.

The Rust Library Team Zulip channel

Lang team discussion

General discussion of the compiler

view this post on Zulip XAMPPRocky (Dec 17 2020 at 11:04):

I think it would be good just to expand it to the full word as a suffix. E.g. compiler-team, lang-team, rustdoc-team.

A problem we’ve had in the past is that if the name is too short, for some teams people have come in assuming it’s a place for users, rather than teams. Though I’m not sure how much that was a problem with Discord’s discussion model specifically. Zulip’s model is certainly more friendly to having intermixed discussions.

view this post on Zulip Noah Lev (Dec 24 2020 at 22:42):

Camelid said:

Opened an issue: zulip/zulip#16902

Zulip has a label just for requests from us :laughter_tears:

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view this post on Zulip bjorn3 (Dec 24 2020 at 23:02):

There doesn't seem to be any other community request label.

view this post on Zulip davidtwco (Dec 24 2020 at 23:19):

Yeah, I requested that from Tim when we first adopted Zulip, the Zulip maintainers are fantastic

view this post on Zulip Noah Lev (Dec 24 2020 at 23:53):

Yeah, Zulip is quite nice even if it has some rough edges :) :zulip:

view this post on Zulip nagisa (Dec 25 2020 at 13:46):

Better than slack.

view this post on Zulip Noah Lev (Dec 25 2020 at 19:28):

I remember when I first joined the Rust Zulip and I thought Zulip was so confusing. Now I can't imagine using anything else :laughing:

view this post on Zulip Pietro Albini (Dec 25 2020 at 19:49):

zulip is the vim of chat platforms

view this post on Zulip Noah Lev (Dec 25 2020 at 20:39):

That's so true! Great way to describe it :)

view this post on Zulip Josh Triplett (Dec 25 2020 at 23:14):

I would have said the mutt of chat platforms, but same idea. :)


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