Stream: t-compiler/meetings

Topic: planning meeting 2020.08.28


nikomatsakis (Aug 28 2020 at 14:02, on Zulip):

Hey @T-compiler/meeting -- planning meeting :)

nikomatsakis (Aug 28 2020 at 14:02, on Zulip):

Wave to show you're around

nikomatsakis (Aug 28 2020 at 14:03, on Zulip):

We've got only a few unscheduled meeting proposals

nikomatsakis (Aug 28 2020 at 14:03, on Zulip):

but I guess before we get to that, let's give time for folks to gather ...

nikomatsakis (Aug 28 2020 at 14:03, on Zulip):

Announcements

nikomatsakis (Aug 28 2020 at 14:03, on Zulip):
nikomatsakis (Aug 28 2020 at 14:06, on Zulip):

OK, well, should we get started?

nikomatsakis (Aug 28 2020 at 14:06, on Zulip):

(Coffee is ready. I was trying to get by with 1 cup this morning, but I give up)

nikomatsakis (Aug 28 2020 at 14:07, on Zulip):

Before discussing the pending meetings, I'll note that we have a bunch of older meetings that still need minutes. Anyone who wants to volunteer to go back and summarize, be my guest. :)

nikomatsakis (Aug 28 2020 at 14:07, on Zulip):

Otherwise, I'll probably go and close the issues and just add some "placeholder" minutes that redirect to the zulip thread

nikomatsakis (Aug 28 2020 at 14:08, on Zulip):

Here are the pending proposals:

nikomatsakis (Aug 28 2020 at 14:08, on Zulip):

/poll Pending meeting proposals

nikomatsakis (Aug 28 2020 at 14:09, on Zulip):

Links:

nikomatsakis (Aug 28 2020 at 14:09, on Zulip):
nikomatsakis (Aug 28 2020 at 14:09, on Zulip):

We are scheduling for the following dates (add emoji if you are unavailable)

nikomatsakis (Aug 28 2020 at 14:10, on Zulip):
nikomatsakis (Aug 28 2020 at 14:10, on Zulip):
nikomatsakis (Aug 28 2020 at 14:10, on Zulip):
Santiago Pastorino (Aug 28 2020 at 14:10, on Zulip):

in order to schedule this stuff, do we want to know for instance when @mark-i-m is available (Mark is related to Discuss results of 2020 Contributor Survey)

nikomatsakis (Aug 28 2020 at 14:10, on Zulip):

I was wondering that too

nikomatsakis (Aug 28 2020 at 14:10, on Zulip):

of the meetings above, that was the one I was most interesting in

nikomatsakis (Aug 28 2020 at 14:10, on Zulip):

I'm still sort of the opinion that we can close compiler-team#177

nikomatsakis (Aug 28 2020 at 14:11, on Zulip):

(i.e., we have no real agenda for a meeting or plans to move on that)

simulacrum (Aug 28 2020 at 14:11, on Zulip):

:thumbs_up: on closing

nikomatsakis (Aug 28 2020 at 14:11, on Zulip):

yeah, let's do that

nikomatsakis (Aug 28 2020 at 14:12, on Zulip):

done

nikomatsakis (Aug 28 2020 at 14:12, on Zulip):

so not many poll results but I guess that "discuss results of 2020 contributor survey" is the "most popular" ;)

Santiago Pastorino (Aug 28 2020 at 14:13, on Zulip):

given that we have 2 meetings to accomodate in 3 slots, and one of the meetings we would need to check availability with @mark-i-m, isn't it better if we just talk to them and then accomodate the other one in one of the other 2 free slots?

nikomatsakis (Aug 28 2020 at 14:13, on Zulip):

I don't think we need to cram in meetings right now, there's a lot going on

nikomatsakis (Aug 28 2020 at 14:13, on Zulip):

I could see trying to schedule that for some friday when @mark-i-m is available (presuming they want to participate)

Santiago Pastorino (Aug 28 2020 at 14:13, on Zulip):

right

nikomatsakis (Aug 28 2020 at 14:14, on Zulip):

Santiago Pastorino said:

given that we have 2 meetings to accomodate in 3 slots, and one of the meetings we would need to check availability with mark-i-m, isn't it better if we just talk to them and then accomodate the other one in one of the other 2 free slots?

yeah I was going to propose something similar

nikomatsakis (Aug 28 2020 at 14:14, on Zulip):

I think the main question is "do we want to do the mcp retro"

nikomatsakis (Aug 28 2020 at 14:14, on Zulip):

I don't feel a strong need, but I thought it'd be useful to talk over the MCP process, how it's been going, if we want to make any adjustments, etc

nikomatsakis (Aug 28 2020 at 14:14, on Zulip):

It seems like it's been going long enough for us to have a sense of it by now

simulacrum (Aug 28 2020 at 14:15, on Zulip):

I wonder if it makes sense to try and do a survey in the lead up to that meeting

matklad (Aug 28 2020 at 14:15, on Zulip):

+1, I have a "too much bureaucracy" feedbeck with respect to parser library-ification wg formation :)

nikomatsakis (Aug 28 2020 at 14:16, on Zulip):

@matklad +1 to what specifically?

nikomatsakis (Aug 28 2020 at 14:16, on Zulip):

simulacrum said:

I wonder if it makes sense to try and do a survey in the lead up to that meeting

that is a good idea

nikomatsakis (Aug 28 2020 at 14:17, on Zulip):

I guess just a simple survey would suffice

nikomatsakis (Aug 28 2020 at 14:17, on Zulip):

things to keep/stop/start

nikomatsakis (Aug 28 2020 at 14:18, on Zulip):

but that doesn't preclude scheduling it

simulacrum (Aug 28 2020 at 14:19, on Zulip):

I think we should schedule for, say, 3 weeks away

nikomatsakis (Aug 28 2020 at 14:20, on Zulip):

yeah I was thinking :

simulacrum (Aug 28 2020 at 14:21, on Zulip):

I'd go for the 4th I think, but don't mind much either way

nikomatsakis (Aug 28 2020 at 14:22, on Zulip):

I was figuring it might depend on @mark-i-m, as they drove that survey

nikomatsakis (Aug 28 2020 at 14:22, on Zulip):

ok, why don't we say that, and I'll pin down the week for contributor survey by end of day

nikomatsakis (Aug 28 2020 at 14:22, on Zulip):

any objections? :)

nikomatsakis (Aug 28 2020 at 14:22, on Zulip):

(also, @matklad, if you have a specific thing about the parser wg formation, we could discuss that in a separate topic...)

matklad (Aug 28 2020 at 14:23, on Zulip):

1 to what specifically?

MCP retro

matklad (Aug 28 2020 at 14:24, on Zulip):

if you have a specific thing about the parser wg formation, we could discuss that in a separate topic...)

I am just filing the relevant PR to the team repo, but, if anyone can create #t-compiler/wg-parselib, that would be helpful :)

nikomatsakis (Aug 28 2020 at 14:25, on Zulip):

@matklad yep I can do some of that stuff

nikomatsakis (Aug 28 2020 at 14:28, on Zulip):

(the truth is that the process here isn't mega clear :)

matklad (Aug 28 2020 at 14:29, on Zulip):

Yeah, that would also be part of my feedback :)

Wesley Wiser (Aug 28 2020 at 14:34, on Zulip):

Sorry I'm late, but I'd also +1 a MCP retrospective

Wesley Wiser (Aug 28 2020 at 14:34, on Zulip):

Not that I think anything has gone terribly wrong, but it would be good to reflect on it

mark-i-m (Aug 28 2020 at 15:21, on Zulip):

I think i can do either of those days

Santiago Pastorino (Aug 28 2020 at 15:21, on Zulip):

cc @nikomatsakis

nikomatsakis (Aug 28 2020 at 15:27, on Zulip):

OK well let's do next week then I guess

nikomatsakis (Aug 28 2020 at 15:27, on Zulip):

ugh I forgot I have to do the follow-up work from this meeting :)

nikomatsakis (Aug 28 2020 at 15:27, on Zulip):

I'm glad I documented the steps

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