Stream: t-compiler/wg-learning

Topic: meeting 2019.10.15


Santiago Pastorino (Oct 14 2019 at 16:21, on Zulip):

@WG-learning tomorrow is unlikely that I'm going to be able to run the meeting, will be heading to the airport at the meeting time. If I can write something on the cellphone I will :).

Santiago Pastorino (Oct 14 2019 at 16:21, on Zulip):

anyway, if tomorrow anyone can update on what each one status is related to the ty lecture, that would be great

Santiago Pastorino (Oct 14 2019 at 16:22, on Zulip):

I still plan to go over our document and feed it with more detail

Santiago Pastorino (Oct 14 2019 at 16:22, on Zulip):

but if we can split different parts of it would be great so we can all do some bits

Santiago Pastorino (Oct 14 2019 at 16:23, on Zulip):

discussions about this would be great too, if people feel cool with the idea of splitting small parts, or what kind of participation each one wants

Santiago Pastorino (Oct 14 2019 at 16:24, on Zulip):

involvement could range between writing big parts of the document, writing small bits, reviewing existing parts or even given psychological support to others :P

Amanjeev Sethi (Oct 15 2019 at 13:51, on Zulip):

I have a meeting at work 3-4pm. I will make it if it ends early. I have a few questions listed on the document that I had so far. I have been watching the video but can only make it to first half after repeated plays. This is not easy. :lol:

Santiago Pastorino (Oct 15 2019 at 14:24, on Zulip):

I have a meeting at work 3-4pm. I will make it if it ends early. I have a few questions listed on the document that I had so far. I have been watching the video but can only make it to first half after repeated plays. This is not easy. :lol:

There are a lot of things involved and it's definitely not easy. Please, investigate things and ask questions, that's the way you will learn and the guide will improve :).

mark-i-m (Oct 15 2019 at 17:09, on Zulip):

I can lead the meeting

mark-i-m (Oct 15 2019 at 17:09, on Zulip):

@WG-learning Meeting in ~2.5h

Santiago Pastorino (Oct 15 2019 at 17:09, on Zulip):

cool

mark-i-m (Oct 15 2019 at 19:38, on Zulip):

@WG-learning Sorry! I'm late!

mark-i-m (Oct 15 2019 at 19:38, on Zulip):

Hi :wave:

mark-i-m (Oct 15 2019 at 19:39, on Zulip):

Is anyone still around?

Santiago Pastorino (Oct 15 2019 at 19:39, on Zulip):

hi

Tshepang Lekhonkhobe (Oct 15 2019 at 19:39, on Zulip):

it's quiet... makes me wonder if people forgot

Santiago Pastorino (Oct 15 2019 at 19:39, on Zulip):

with the cellphone

mark-i-m (Oct 15 2019 at 19:39, on Zulip):

I definitely did...

mark-i-m (Oct 15 2019 at 19:39, on Zulip):

Ok, well hopefully others can join

mark-i-m (Oct 15 2019 at 19:40, on Zulip):

Does anyone have updates regarding the document? I personally haven't gotten to work on it

Tshepang Lekhonkhobe (Oct 15 2019 at 19:40, on Zulip):

what's agenda for today?

mark-i-m (Oct 15 2019 at 19:41, on Zulip):

@Santiago Pastorino Wanted to talk about

mark-i-m (Oct 15 2019 at 19:41, on Zulip):

- any progress on the doc

mark-i-m (Oct 15 2019 at 19:41, on Zulip):

- how to split up the work

mark-i-m (Oct 15 2019 at 19:42, on Zulip):

(to clarify: split into different parts, not split among people)

mark-i-m (Oct 15 2019 at 19:42, on Zulip):

IIUC

mark-i-m (Oct 15 2019 at 19:43, on Zulip):

Also, it would be cool to resolve the two discussions on the PRs about long/short options and bash >

Tshepang Lekhonkhobe (Oct 15 2019 at 19:43, on Zulip):

different parts as in headings, or physical pages

mark-i-m (Oct 15 2019 at 19:43, on Zulip):

not sure... headings makes more sense to me

Tshepang Lekhonkhobe (Oct 15 2019 at 19:44, on Zulip):

heh, the long/short actually surprised... thought it would be an easy argument that long is better

Tshepang Lekhonkhobe (Oct 15 2019 at 19:44, on Zulip):

I even fotgot about the PR

mark-i-m (Oct 15 2019 at 19:44, on Zulip):

:P

mark-i-m (Oct 15 2019 at 19:45, on Zulip):

I still prefer long with a footnote mentioning short. I don't tend to use long args when short args are available personally... I don't have a strong preference though

Tshepang Lekhonkhobe (Oct 15 2019 at 19:47, on Zulip):

I take advantage of fancy shells, so long only needs typed once

mark-i-m (Oct 15 2019 at 19:47, on Zulip):

Ok, so I'm assuming the silence means nobody has updates?

mark-i-m (Oct 15 2019 at 19:47, on Zulip):

ah, I see

Tshepang Lekhonkhobe (Oct 15 2019 at 19:47, on Zulip):

on the doc, I wonder how we should handle outdated info

mark-i-m (Oct 15 2019 at 19:47, on Zulip):

@Santiago Pastorino Did you have more concrete ideas about how to break the doc?

mark-i-m (Oct 15 2019 at 19:47, on Zulip):

on the doc, I wonder how we should handle outdated info

mark-i-m (Oct 15 2019 at 19:47, on Zulip):

Good question

mark-i-m (Oct 15 2019 at 19:48, on Zulip):

I think we should make a best effort to make sure the info is up to date, but past that, we rely on people making PRs, just like with the rest of the rustc-guide

Tshepang Lekhonkhobe (Oct 15 2019 at 19:49, on Zulip):

on the doc, I wonder how we should handle outdated info

one coming to mind is that we only got 'tcx nowadays ('gcx is gone, but was still around during making of video)

mark-i-m (Oct 15 2019 at 19:50, on Zulip):

I think for the ones we know about, we can just update the doc, right?

mark-i-m (Oct 15 2019 at 19:50, on Zulip):

And ask niko if we don't know how to

Tshepang Lekhonkhobe (Oct 15 2019 at 19:50, on Zulip):

was referring specifically to Ty lecture

mark-i-m (Oct 15 2019 at 19:50, on Zulip):

yes

mark-i-m (Oct 15 2019 at 19:51, on Zulip):

so was i

Tshepang Lekhonkhobe (Oct 15 2019 at 19:52, on Zulip):

in the draft, 'gcx is explained, so maybe it shouldn't reach the guide... should just be a note for those watching the video

mark-i-m (Oct 15 2019 at 19:53, on Zulip):

agreed

Tshepang Lekhonkhobe (Oct 15 2019 at 19:55, on Zulip):

I will finish that --long pr with your suggestion

mark-i-m (Oct 15 2019 at 19:58, on Zulip):

Thanks!

mark-i-m (Oct 15 2019 at 19:58, on Zulip):

Sorry. I think me being late made this a very slow meeting :(

mark-i-m (Oct 15 2019 at 19:58, on Zulip):

Is there anything else?

Tshepang Lekhonkhobe (Oct 15 2019 at 20:00, on Zulip):

next meeting is 2 weeks from now?

mark-i-m (Oct 15 2019 at 20:00, on Zulip):

yes

mark-i-m (Oct 15 2019 at 20:08, on Zulip):

Thanks for joining @Tshepang Lekhonkhobe and @Santiago Pastorino

mark-i-m (Oct 15 2019 at 20:09, on Zulip):

:wave:

Tshepang Lekhonkhobe (Oct 15 2019 at 20:12, on Zulip):

I will finish that --long pr with your suggestion

is done @mark-i-m https://github.com/rust-lang/rustc-guide/pull/450

Santiago Pastorino (Oct 15 2019 at 21:53, on Zulip):

@mark-i-m @Tshepang Lekhonkhobe ended having some troubles on my way to the airport and couldn’t participate

Santiago Pastorino (Oct 15 2019 at 21:54, on Zulip):

I think a key thing is to know what parts people want to work on and split work

Santiago Pastorino (Oct 15 2019 at 21:56, on Zulip):

we can discuss this async but would be nice to hear who wants to continue doing something in this chapter and if they know what or they want to get a suggestion about what to do

Santiago Pastorino (Oct 15 2019 at 21:56, on Zulip):

@WG-learning :wait_one_second:

Yuki Okushi (Oct 15 2019 at 23:18, on Zulip):

The meeting doesn't fit my time zone (UTC+9), sorry. I'm reading the meeting log just now.

Amanjeev Sethi (Oct 16 2019 at 13:49, on Zulip):

Sorry to hear @Yuki Okushi . Do you think we should try and reschedule to a better time so you can attend too? Need input from @WG-learning about this.

Santiago Pastorino (Oct 16 2019 at 13:51, on Zulip):

we can organize a doodle if there's people that can assist and it's not able

Yuki Okushi (Oct 16 2019 at 13:56, on Zulip):

I will try to attend as much as possible, but I'd be happy if the meeting starts at 16:00~17:00 (UTC).

Santiago Pastorino (Oct 16 2019 at 14:17, on Zulip):

@WG-learning does the meeting work at 16hs UTC?

Santiago Pastorino (Oct 16 2019 at 14:17, on Zulip):

otherwise I guess we should make a doodle

Amanjeev Sethi (Oct 16 2019 at 14:18, on Zulip):

Works for me on ET, Toronto.

mark-i-m (Oct 16 2019 at 19:38, on Zulip):

Still every other tuesday, correct?

mark-i-m (Oct 16 2019 at 19:39, on Zulip):

I think that can work for me

mark-i-m (Oct 16 2019 at 19:39, on Zulip):

Perhaps we can make a doodle poll and leave it up for a week though to make sure those who are not awake now can weigh in...

Amanjeev Sethi (Oct 16 2019 at 19:45, on Zulip):

Yea lets make a poll. That will help everyone who might have missed this conversation.

mark-i-m (Oct 22 2019 at 17:49, on Zulip):

btw, I won't be able to come next week

Manish Gill (Oct 25 2019 at 15:09, on Zulip):

Hi! I don't have much context, but I was pointed to this group a few weeks back :) I would love to help out in any sort of task (improving documentation etc). My rust experience is limited to reading the Rust Book and a couple of basic projects.

mark-i-m (Oct 25 2019 at 15:19, on Zulip):

@Manish Gill Welcome! Etiquette is pretty relaxed here. Feel free to create a new topic if you feel that non of the "recent" ones fit...

mark-i-m (Oct 25 2019 at 15:19, on Zulip):

Regarding work:

mark-i-m (Oct 25 2019 at 15:25, on Zulip):

There are a few things you could take on/help with if you want:

  1. There are a ton of issues on the rustc-guide repo. Triaging them for their current status is helpful.
  2. If you want, you can also work pick any of the issues. Feel free to post back here if you need help. Though, some of them are blocked on expert time, which is unfortunately hard to get.
  3. Fixes, cleanup, etc on the rustc-guide itself are always welcome and can be a good way for you to contribute while also reading the guide
  4. We are working on transcribing the compiler lecture series videos (https://github.com/rust-lang/rustc-guide/projects/2), and in particular, we are collectively transcribing the Ty lecture and building this document: https://paper.dropbox.com/doc/Ty-lecture-summary--AmTyuUz5MYUQpFr21bhQpE8WAg-4jFj9bVOLlW7uhIOWHITX
mark-i-m (Oct 25 2019 at 15:27, on Zulip):

The WG also has a bi-weekly sync meeting, which happens on zulip (this thread is the result from the last meeting). The next one will be Tuesday (Oct 29) at 7:30:pm UTC.

mark-i-m (Oct 25 2019 at 15:27, on Zulip):

Feel free to get involved with any of the above to the extent that you want to/can :)

Manish Gill (Oct 25 2019 at 15:29, on Zulip):

Thanks @mark-i-m I think this weekend I will go through the rustc guide's part 1 (try to build the compiler etc). Along with that, I do end up watching lots of tech talks/making notes so I guess I can help out in the transcribing lectures part as well. The rest of it I guess I'll figure it out :)

Last update: Nov 15 2019 at 20:15UTC