Stream: t-compiler/wg-learning

Topic: meeting 2019-09-03


Santiago Pastorino (Sep 03 2019 at 19:31, on Zulip):

@WG-learning meeting time

Santiago Pastorino (Sep 03 2019 at 19:31, on Zulip):

:wave:

Santiago Pastorino (Sep 03 2019 at 19:33, on Zulip):

is there somebody around? :)

Santiago Pastorino (Sep 03 2019 at 19:33, on Zulip):

@mark-i-m ?

Tshepang Lekhonkhobe (Sep 03 2019 at 19:34, on Zulip):

oh, didn't get a notification about the meeting

Santiago Pastorino (Sep 03 2019 at 19:34, on Zulip):

hey

Tshepang Lekhonkhobe (Sep 03 2019 at 19:35, on Zulip):

caught this by "accident"

Santiago Pastorino (Sep 03 2019 at 19:35, on Zulip):

let me check if you're in the group ...

Tshepang Lekhonkhobe (Sep 03 2019 at 19:35, on Zulip):

I should be, because I was notified last time

Santiago Pastorino (Sep 03 2019 at 19:35, on Zulip):

yes, you're

Santiago Pastorino (Sep 03 2019 at 19:35, on Zulip):

:+1:

Santiago Pastorino (Sep 03 2019 at 19:35, on Zulip):

I guess the meeting is just you and me :)

Santiago Pastorino (Sep 03 2019 at 19:36, on Zulip):

were you able to go over the lecture?

Santiago Pastorino (Sep 03 2019 at 19:37, on Zulip):

yours was https://github.com/rust-lang/rustc-guide/issues/363 if I'm correct

Tshepang Lekhonkhobe (Sep 03 2019 at 19:37, on Zulip):

that's what I'm going to do next... I probably got enough background material to re-watch now

Tshepang Lekhonkhobe (Sep 03 2019 at 19:39, on Zulip):

this meeting happens every 2 weeks?

Tshepang Lekhonkhobe (Sep 03 2019 at 19:40, on Zulip):

just now seeing it in my mail (the notification)

Santiago Pastorino (Sep 03 2019 at 19:40, on Zulip):

yes, it's happening every two weeks

nikomatsakis (Sep 03 2019 at 19:41, on Zulip):

:wave:

Santiago Pastorino (Sep 03 2019 at 19:41, on Zulip):

we may need to revisit this

Santiago Pastorino (Sep 03 2019 at 19:41, on Zulip):

hey @nikomatsakis

nikomatsakis (Sep 03 2019 at 19:41, on Zulip):

I'm late but around now

Santiago Pastorino (Sep 03 2019 at 19:41, on Zulip):

btw @nikomatsakis, I feel like we should do a higher level meeting about WG-learning

Santiago Pastorino (Sep 03 2019 at 19:41, on Zulip):

to set a bit more clear the vision and things that we would like to accomplish

Santiago Pastorino (Sep 03 2019 at 19:42, on Zulip):

and btw I may need some tips from the experts because right now I'm not really sure who is involved in this WG

Amanjeev Sethi (Sep 03 2019 at 19:42, on Zulip):

I am late. Sorry :frown:

Santiago Pastorino (Sep 03 2019 at 19:42, on Zulip):

it feels like it would be great to have more people involved

Santiago Pastorino (Sep 03 2019 at 19:42, on Zulip):

hi @Amanjeev Sethi

Amanjeev Sethi (Sep 03 2019 at 19:43, on Zulip):

Hello everyone!

Amanjeev Sethi (Sep 03 2019 at 19:43, on Zulip):

And Santiago!

Santiago Pastorino (Sep 03 2019 at 19:43, on Zulip):

:big_smile:

Tshepang Lekhonkhobe (Sep 03 2019 at 19:43, on Zulip):

hi

Santiago Pastorino (Sep 03 2019 at 19:44, on Zulip):

@Amanjeev Sethi seeing that you reacted with :100:, I guess you have the same feeling, right?

Santiago Pastorino (Sep 03 2019 at 19:44, on Zulip):

can you explain a bit, what would you like to discuss and know?

Amanjeev Sethi (Sep 03 2019 at 19:47, on Zulip):

I was going to say that. It feels like

1. Without experts being involved and clear responsibility of the said chosen experts, there is a limitation for people like me. I can take easier videos but it is daunting to have a deep dive into some of the more tougher sections.
2. If the goal is to have a more quality rustc guide so the newcomers aren't confused or get clearer picture of the compiler related development, then there is only so much new folks like me can do.

Amanjeev Sethi (Sep 03 2019 at 19:48, on Zulip):

I feel that the video summaries alone do not cut it. There needs to be sessions where a bunch of us can get involved in a large majority of those. OR have more than one person watch one of the videos to collaborate on each.

Amanjeev Sethi (Sep 03 2019 at 19:49, on Zulip):

I might be way off but thats my feeling. I understand that it will take longer if people collaborate this way or people wait for subject matter experts, but I wonder what the goals are here and say, quality, is included in the said goals.

Santiago Pastorino (Sep 03 2019 at 19:49, on Zulip):

interesting ideas :)

nikomatsakis (Sep 03 2019 at 19:49, on Zulip):

btw nikomatsakis, I feel like we should do a higher level meeting about WG-learning

I agree

Santiago Pastorino (Sep 03 2019 at 19:49, on Zulip):

this is basically what I wanted to talk about

nikomatsakis (Sep 03 2019 at 19:50, on Zulip):

(sorry, somebody rang my doorbell so I got called away)

Santiago Pastorino (Sep 03 2019 at 19:50, on Zulip):

@nikomatsakis no worries

nikomatsakis (Sep 03 2019 at 19:50, on Zulip):

I guess I think

Santiago Pastorino (Sep 03 2019 at 19:50, on Zulip):

@Amanjeev Sethi you may remember me wanting to have a longer meeting, that @mark-i-m kept mentioning

nikomatsakis (Sep 03 2019 at 19:50, on Zulip):

What @Amanjeev Sethi is saying makes a lot of sense :)

Santiago Pastorino (Sep 03 2019 at 19:50, on Zulip):

it was exactly to discuss this kind of things

nikomatsakis (Sep 03 2019 at 19:50, on Zulip):

One thing worth thinking about is if we can achieve things in other ways

nikomatsakis (Sep 03 2019 at 19:51, on Zulip):

simple example would be that just having video sessions organized and findable is a win already

Santiago Pastorino (Sep 03 2019 at 19:51, on Zulip):

yep, my idea was ... ok ... we have been running this WG for a bit already, where and what kind of things can we improve

nikomatsakis (Sep 03 2019 at 19:52, on Zulip):

it's clearly true that "expert" time is pretty limited

nikomatsakis (Sep 03 2019 at 19:52, on Zulip):

I guess what I'm wondering is:

Santiago Pastorino (Sep 03 2019 at 19:52, on Zulip):

I've always thought that rustc-guide without a section is worse than rustc-guide with a section that has a link to a video :)

nikomatsakis (Sep 03 2019 at 19:52, on Zulip):

suppose that e.g. I were to commit 1 hour per week to sit on a video call or do whatever

nikomatsakis (Sep 03 2019 at 19:52, on Zulip):

(and maybe we can get others to do similarly -- maybe not quite so often)

nikomatsakis (Sep 03 2019 at 19:53, on Zulip):

what could we produce with that time that is useful?

nikomatsakis (Sep 03 2019 at 19:53, on Zulip):

one obvious thing would just be to do a series of videos, kind of, have people come with a topic in mind, and we'll try to explain how "some part" of the compiler works

Santiago Pastorino (Sep 03 2019 at 19:53, on Zulip):

yaeh, that's really interesting

nikomatsakis (Sep 03 2019 at 19:53, on Zulip):

I feel like I'd be game to commit a fixed period of time -- what's really hard to come by is the time in between those sessions

nikomatsakis (Sep 03 2019 at 19:54, on Zulip):

not sure how much value that really adds

Santiago Pastorino (Sep 03 2019 at 19:54, on Zulip):

one obvious thing would just be to do a series of videos, kind of, have people come with a topic in mind, and we'll try to explain how "some part" of the compiler works

that or even have some of us watching lectures, discussing between us and trying to reach that meeting with you with questions, kind of an office hours session

nikomatsakis (Sep 03 2019 at 19:55, on Zulip):

yeah I was wondering about the idea of "office hours"

Amanjeev Sethi (Sep 03 2019 at 19:55, on Zulip):

I like that idea! Also, it does not have to be once per week. I would vote for even once per month or so given that the presenter can provide some more details in the chat/conference and good slides etc. Given we are on bimonthly cycle here anyway, it will also help give some time to prepare before such a conference?

Santiago Pastorino (Sep 03 2019 at 19:56, on Zulip):

maybe what we could do is get questions out of those lectures and send them to Niko so before having this meeting he can check out and prepare if needed

Santiago Pastorino (Sep 03 2019 at 19:56, on Zulip):

but also, to be honest, I'd try to get the prepare part of this to the very minimum

nikomatsakis (Sep 03 2019 at 19:56, on Zulip):

yes that :)

nikomatsakis (Sep 03 2019 at 19:57, on Zulip):

I agree though that once per week is perhaps too often

Santiago Pastorino (Sep 03 2019 at 19:57, on Zulip):

given that experts time is scarce, preparing things may not be possible or attractive to experts :)

Santiago Pastorino (Sep 03 2019 at 19:57, on Zulip):

we can go over together or do something more informal

Tshepang Lekhonkhobe (Sep 03 2019 at 19:57, on Zulip):

how many people are in this wg

Santiago Pastorino (Sep 03 2019 at 19:57, on Zulip):

I agree though that once per week is perhaps too often

:+1:

Santiago Pastorino (Sep 03 2019 at 19:58, on Zulip):

how many people are in this wg

11 that are part of the @*WG-learning* Zulip group

Amanjeev Sethi (Sep 03 2019 at 19:59, on Zulip):

given that experts time is scarce, preparing things may not be possible or attractive to experts :slight_smile:

Absolutely :100: agree! Thats why I was thinking of spacing it really well. And btw, if everyone in this WG (or nearly everyone) participates in each and every one of those expert-driven conferences, that will give experts even more space IMO.

Santiago Pastorino (Sep 03 2019 at 19:59, on Zulip):

agreed

nikomatsakis (Sep 03 2019 at 19:59, on Zulip):

what exactly do we envision doing in said "conference"?

Santiago Pastorino (Sep 03 2019 at 19:59, on Zulip):

what I'd try to do is ...

Santiago Pastorino (Sep 03 2019 at 20:00, on Zulip):

1. watch one session in a group of people, as @Amanjeev Sethi said maybe is better if more than one person goes over it

Santiago Pastorino (Sep 03 2019 at 20:00, on Zulip):

2. try to understand as much as possible between that group

Santiago Pastorino (Sep 03 2019 at 20:00, on Zulip):

3. write down doubts, questions, etc for experts

Santiago Pastorino (Sep 03 2019 at 20:01, on Zulip):

4. have that conference to get answers for those questions

Santiago Pastorino (Sep 03 2019 at 20:01, on Zulip):

what exactly do we envision doing in said "conference"?

so, basically, placing the content of that in rustc-guide

Amanjeev Sethi (Sep 03 2019 at 20:02, on Zulip):

I think @Santiago Pastorino nailed it

Santiago Pastorino (Sep 03 2019 at 20:02, on Zulip):

I guess it may happen that in one of the lectures, you get concepts a, b, c and d

Santiago Pastorino (Sep 03 2019 at 20:02, on Zulip):

you got a clearly

Santiago Pastorino (Sep 03 2019 at 20:02, on Zulip):

b and c so so

Santiago Pastorino (Sep 03 2019 at 20:02, on Zulip):

and no idea about d

Santiago Pastorino (Sep 03 2019 at 20:03, on Zulip):

the "conference" would be about clarifying to the person that is writing that chapter those concepts so they can write them down in a clear way :)

Amanjeev Sethi (Sep 03 2019 at 20:03, on Zulip):

And in many cases compiler has moved on to a new fancy thing and the said expert is the only person who can help us. etc.

Santiago Pastorino (Sep 03 2019 at 20:04, on Zulip):

and btw, it's cool that the ones doing that are not experts because experts may tend to think some things are obvious and avoid documenting them or explaining them, by having this process I think we would end with better and clearer guides

Santiago Pastorino (Sep 03 2019 at 20:04, on Zulip):

because non experts already ran over things that did not understand

Amanjeev Sethi (Sep 03 2019 at 20:05, on Zulip):

I agree! In some ways, maybe the new contributors' rite of passage should be to read relevant part of rustc guide and improve it, if possible (even if asking questions) LOL

Amanjeev Sethi (Sep 03 2019 at 20:05, on Zulip):

(dont hate me new contributors to rustc, I have no power)

Santiago Pastorino (Sep 03 2019 at 20:06, on Zulip):

hehe, agreed

Santiago Pastorino (Sep 03 2019 at 20:06, on Zulip):

and I also think that one important thing is finding a way of motivating people to work on this stuff

Santiago Pastorino (Sep 03 2019 at 20:06, on Zulip):

this is very important

Santiago Pastorino (Sep 03 2019 at 20:07, on Zulip):

I guess getting in a call with somebody that explain things may be part of the motivating factor

Amanjeev Sethi (Sep 03 2019 at 20:07, on Zulip):

I can tell you my motivation is to understand the workings of the compiler and how it works with tools around it.

Santiago Pastorino (Sep 03 2019 at 20:08, on Zulip):

because you know that you are not going to get stucked and that you're going to learn the thing

nikomatsakis (Sep 03 2019 at 20:08, on Zulip):

this all sounds great

nikomatsakis (Sep 03 2019 at 20:08, on Zulip):

it also sounds sort of like what I imagined would happen

nikomatsakis (Sep 03 2019 at 20:08, on Zulip):

but didn't really materialize

nikomatsakis (Sep 03 2019 at 20:08, on Zulip):

that is, back-and-forth between original video

nikomatsakis (Sep 03 2019 at 20:08, on Zulip):

anyway, i'm happy to schedule a slot for it

nikomatsakis (Sep 03 2019 at 20:08, on Zulip):

probably best to try it a bit with one starting video?

Santiago Pastorino (Sep 03 2019 at 20:08, on Zulip):

I can tell you my motivation is to understand the workings of the compiler and how it works with tools around it.

yeah, that's probably the motivation of everyone :)

Amanjeev Sethi (Sep 03 2019 at 20:09, on Zulip):

Choose any video. I am game with anything. Maybe more important priority wise?

Santiago Pastorino (Sep 03 2019 at 20:09, on Zulip):

probably best to try it a bit with one starting video?

yeah, I wasn't transcribing any video but happy to go over one, but were you @Amanjeev Sethi ?

Amanjeev Sethi (Sep 03 2019 at 20:10, on Zulip):

yea there is a video in my list which I have not gotten to in past month or so because of new job etc.

Amanjeev Sethi (Sep 03 2019 at 20:10, on Zulip):

But that video is not really super technical I think

Santiago Pastorino (Sep 03 2019 at 20:10, on Zulip):

let me check ...

Amanjeev Sethi (Sep 03 2019 at 20:11, on Zulip):

this one https://github.com/rust-lang/rustc-guide/issues/372

Santiago Pastorino (Sep 03 2019 at 20:11, on Zulip):

what about doing https://github.com/rust-lang/rustc-guide/issues/375 ?

nikomatsakis (Sep 03 2019 at 20:12, on Zulip):

this one https://github.com/rust-lang/rustc-guide/issues/372

I'm not sure that video's a great choice

nikomatsakis (Sep 03 2019 at 20:12, on Zulip):

though documenting how async/await works could be good

Santiago Pastorino (Sep 03 2019 at 20:12, on Zulip):

what about doing https://github.com/rust-lang/rustc-guide/issues/375 ?

because I know there's also more stuff where we could continue afterwards

nikomatsakis (Sep 03 2019 at 20:12, on Zulip):

but that particular video I feel like was more of an internal discussion on how to fix various bugs?

Amanjeev Sethi (Sep 03 2019 at 20:13, on Zulip):

what about doing https://github.com/rust-lang/rustc-guide/issues/375 ?

Looks like a real deal to me! :slight_smile:

nikomatsakis (Sep 03 2019 at 20:13, on Zulip):

yeah that one seems better

Santiago Pastorino (Sep 03 2019 at 20:14, on Zulip):

about this https://github.com/rust-lang/rustc-guide/issues/372 we may prefer, as Niko said, to document how async/await works

Santiago Pastorino (Sep 03 2019 at 20:14, on Zulip):

or something like that

Santiago Pastorino (Sep 03 2019 at 20:14, on Zulip):

maybe we can add an issue about that and place that video link there and also other resources around

Santiago Pastorino (Sep 03 2019 at 20:14, on Zulip):

but sounds like that video is just a resource of something bigger but not a thing per se

Amanjeev Sethi (Sep 03 2019 at 20:15, on Zulip):

Yea, again my understanding of where all-things-rustc are going so cannot put my finger on how important it is and how it fits.

Amanjeev Sethi (Sep 03 2019 at 20:16, on Zulip):

So I am happy to follow along. Once in while I will ask questions though. lol

Santiago Pastorino (Sep 03 2019 at 20:17, on Zulip):

so ok, now I wonder what's the plan exactly

nikomatsakis (Sep 03 2019 at 20:18, on Zulip):

my take is

nikomatsakis (Sep 03 2019 at 20:18, on Zulip):

it would be better to focus on one video at a time to start

nikomatsakis (Sep 03 2019 at 20:18, on Zulip):

or "few", anyway

Santiago Pastorino (Sep 03 2019 at 20:18, on Zulip):

one possibility could be that all of the members of @WG-learning that want to learn and document how types are represented in Rust, should watch the lecture included in https://github.com/rust-lang/rustc-guide/issues/375, write something down, get questions ...

nikomatsakis (Sep 03 2019 at 20:18, on Zulip):

once we have a working system, maybe scale it up

Santiago Pastorino (Sep 03 2019 at 20:19, on Zulip):

we can do a meeting without @nikomatsakis first

nikomatsakis (Sep 03 2019 at 20:19, on Zulip):

but if we just want to start with "let's document how types work", seems like a good place to start

Amanjeev Sethi (Sep 03 2019 at 20:19, on Zulip):

I thought it was

```Santiago Pastorino: 1. watch one session in a group of people (we think so far #375 is a good candidate)

Santiago Pastorino: 2. try to understand as much as possible between that group

Santiago Pastorino: 3. write down doubts, questions, etc for experts

Santiago Pastorino: 4. have that conference to get answers for those questions```

Santiago Pastorino (Sep 03 2019 at 20:19, on Zulip):

and then try to get @nikomatsakis to answer things we couldn't?

Santiago Pastorino (Sep 03 2019 at 20:20, on Zulip):

I thought it was

Santiago Pastorino: 1. watch one session in a group of people (we think so far https://github.com/rust-lang/rustc-guide/issues/375 is a good candidate)

Santiago Pastorino: 2. try to understand as much as possible between that group

Santiago Pastorino: 3. write down doubts, questions, etc for experts

Santiago Pastorino: 4. have that conference to get answers for those questions


yeah, but I mean

Santiago Pastorino (Sep 03 2019 at 20:21, on Zulip):

I guess I'd add a couple of things to that

Santiago Pastorino (Sep 03 2019 at 20:21, on Zulip):

one is some kind of date where we have a meeting without Niko

Santiago Pastorino (Sep 03 2019 at 20:21, on Zulip):

so members of working group can discuss things

Santiago Pastorino (Sep 03 2019 at 20:22, on Zulip):

and after that we can conclude with questions for Niko

Santiago Pastorino (Sep 03 2019 at 20:22, on Zulip):

we area already 22 mins over in the meeting :P

Santiago Pastorino (Sep 03 2019 at 20:22, on Zulip):

but glad this is happening :)

Santiago Pastorino (Sep 03 2019 at 20:23, on Zulip):

@Amanjeev Sethi what could be a date for which we can watch the lecture, write some docs down and write also questions down?

Amanjeev Sethi (Sep 03 2019 at 20:23, on Zulip):

One last thing, I would like to use a tool where there are real time updates so all members can see collaboration happening. But I am not sure if there is a tool

Santiago Pastorino (Sep 03 2019 at 20:23, on Zulip):

isn't that https://github.com/rust-lang/rustc-guide/projects/2 ?

Amanjeev Sethi (Sep 03 2019 at 20:23, on Zulip):

Amanjeev Sethi what could be a date for which we can watch the lecture, write some docs down and write also questions down?

How about 3 weeks for now?

Santiago Pastorino (Sep 03 2019 at 20:23, on Zulip):

Amanjeev Sethi what could be a date for which we can watch the lecture, write some docs down and write also questions down?

How about 3 weeks for now?

sounds good to me

Amanjeev Sethi (Sep 03 2019 at 20:24, on Zulip):

24th Sept.

Amanjeev Sethi (Sep 03 2019 at 20:25, on Zulip):

so we cancel the next meeting and shift?

Tshepang Lekhonkhobe (Sep 03 2019 at 20:25, on Zulip):

24th is good

Santiago Pastorino (Sep 03 2019 at 20:26, on Zulip):

so we cancel the next meeting and shift?

I think so

nikomatsakis (Sep 03 2019 at 20:26, on Zulip):

this doesn't require my participation, right? this is the one before that? :)

Santiago Pastorino (Sep 03 2019 at 20:26, on Zulip):

yes

Amanjeev Sethi (Sep 03 2019 at 20:26, on Zulip):

Yes please, you can chill @nikomatsakis

Santiago Pastorino (Sep 03 2019 at 20:27, on Zulip):

at the end of that meeting we can ping you @nikomatsakis and try to get a meeting with you to verify things, ask questions, etc

Santiago Pastorino (Sep 03 2019 at 20:29, on Zulip):

so we cancel the next meeting and shift?

I feel like this one would be a new meeting, I'd say for one hour. At the same time I'm wondering what to do with this bi-weekly meeting, it seems that is happening very frequently, or at least more frequently than the progress we can make

Amanjeev Sethi (Sep 03 2019 at 20:30, on Zulip):

I say drop the biweekly if no one else finds it at a good pace that we can work. We can always create a new one if we all here decide we need one. WDYT?

Tshepang Lekhonkhobe (Sep 03 2019 at 20:30, on Zulip):

we can still weekly it, in which case it can be more short, say 10-20m

Amanjeev Sethi (Sep 03 2019 at 20:31, on Zulip):

I am game with that too

Santiago Pastorino (Sep 03 2019 at 20:36, on Zulip):

yeah, let's keep the thing in discuss in the next one

Tshepang Lekhonkhobe (Sep 03 2019 at 20:36, on Zulip):

what's discuss

Amanjeev Sethi (Sep 03 2019 at 20:38, on Zulip):

I think he means that next one for further discussion of the topic today. Am I right?

Santiago Pastorino (Sep 04 2019 at 04:23, on Zulip):

sorry, I meant, let's keep the meetings as they are for now and we can discuss the meeting frequency in next meeting or something like that

mark-i-m (Sep 04 2019 at 21:41, on Zulip):

Hi all, really sorry for missing. The school semester is starting again for me, so I'm going to have to back off a bit, but I still hope to be involve

Amanjeev Sethi (Sep 15 2019 at 23:49, on Zulip):

Just to confirm, we are still all watching and taking notes of this video https://github.com/rust-lang/rustc-guide/issues/375 right? I see that @Iñaki Garay has that as WIP already so making sure we are still doing this.

Amanjeev Sethi (Sep 15 2019 at 23:55, on Zulip):

Also, https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=c01TsOsr3-c is not available in Canada? I get the error on the video that

Video Unavailable: This video is restricted. Try signing in with a Google Apps account.

Santiago Pastorino (Sep 16 2019 at 15:25, on Zulip):

Just to confirm, we are still all watching and taking notes of this video https://github.com/rust-lang/rustc-guide/issues/375 right? I see that Iñaki Garay has that as WIP already so making sure we are still doing this.

yes, unsure if @Iñaki Garay was able to continue with the work, but we are going over that video, taking notes and we will have a meeting :)

Santiago Pastorino (Sep 16 2019 at 15:25, on Zulip):

Also, https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=c01TsOsr3-c is not available in Canada? I get the error on the video that

Video Unavailable: This video is restricted. Try signing in with a Google Apps account.

unsure about that /cc @nikomatsakis

Santiago Pastorino (Sep 16 2019 at 15:31, on Zulip):

@Amanjeev Sethi the meeting is scheduled for the 24th

Santiago Pastorino (Sep 16 2019 at 15:31, on Zulip):

just added it to the rust compiler calendar

Florian Gilcher (Sep 16 2019 at 15:32, on Zulip):

@Santiago Pastorino video channel is community team/me

Santiago Pastorino (Sep 16 2019 at 15:33, on Zulip):

Santiago Pastorino video channel is community team/me

:+1:, so /cc @Florian Gilcher :P

Santiago Pastorino (Sep 16 2019 at 15:33, on Zulip):

was asking Niko because I thought he was the one who uploaded it, in any case, it seems like it's not working on Canada

Florian Gilcher (Sep 16 2019 at 15:35, on Zulip):

I can't find any place in the youtube editor that gives me that info :(

Florian Gilcher (Sep 16 2019 at 15:37, on Zulip):

Well, let's do the social media thingy: https://twitter.com/Argorak/status/1173621801236205570

Santiago Pastorino (Sep 16 2019 at 15:39, on Zulip):

https://www.reddit.com/r/canada/comments/4ryi0q/youtube_video_not_available_in_your_country/

Santiago Pastorino (Sep 16 2019 at 15:39, on Zulip):

wonder what happens if you use that /v/ trick, would be very weird if that works

Santiago Pastorino (Sep 16 2019 at 15:40, on Zulip):
Like, instead of:

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=<video>

you would use:

https://www.youtube.com/v/watch?v=<video>
Amanjeev Sethi (Sep 16 2019 at 15:41, on Zulip):

I am at work right now and I clicked on the video link and... it worked

Amanjeev Sethi (Sep 16 2019 at 15:41, on Zulip):

I do not have any VPN at home

Santiago Pastorino (Sep 16 2019 at 15:41, on Zulip):

@Amanjeev Sethi which link? the normal link or the one with /v/?

Amanjeev Sethi (Sep 16 2019 at 15:42, on Zulip):

yea the normal link https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=c01TsOsr3-c

Amanjeev Sethi (Sep 16 2019 at 15:50, on Zulip):

I will try this at home again and report back with various URLs. Maybe Youtube gods are not happy with Canadians.

Florian Gilcher (Sep 16 2019 at 15:51, on Zulip):

Got two reports that it works...

Last update: Nov 15 2019 at 20:55UTC