Stream: wg-secure-code

Topic: logo


Shnatsel (Oct 19 2018 at 06:29, on Zulip):

This reminds me. We have an ongoing logo discussion with several proposed options: https://github.com/rust-secure-code/wg/issues/1
Please chip in whether you like or dislike certain options and why.

Tony Arcieri (Oct 19 2018 at 13:12, on Zulip):

I still want to make one or two more entries. Maybe this weekend

Shnatsel (Dec 07 2018 at 21:10, on Zulip):

@Tony Arcieri any word on those logo entries you mentioned? We might do official WG comms in a couple of weeks, it would be nice to have a logo by that time.

Tony Arcieri (Dec 08 2018 at 02:32, on Zulip):

I can attempt a few more logo submissions. I had some ideas

Tony Arcieri (Dec 08 2018 at 02:33, on Zulip):

I was thinking of trying to play off of this, except Ferris http://leftoversalad.com/c/015_programmingpeople/PPrust.png

Tony Arcieri (Dec 08 2018 at 02:33, on Zulip):

like Ferris in a suit of armor, but still a crab. A metal crab

Tony Arcieri (Dec 08 2018 at 02:36, on Zulip):

whoa https://c1.staticflickr.com/3/2615/4102017860_a525c336c5_b.jpg

Tony Arcieri (Dec 08 2018 at 02:37, on Zulip):

apparently those things below it are fountain jets that spray it in the crabface with water https://www.theglobeandmail.com/resizer/ctk1lQMY3PF6aEfeT3fb2efFtS4=/1200x0/filters:quality(80)/arc-anglerfish-tgam-prod-tgam.s3.amazonaws.com/public/TCVLST7TKRBRDKT4WC3DFZ6VLI

Shnatsel (Dec 08 2018 at 21:57, on Zulip):

Armor sounds kind of cool. But I think the thing with Ferris as a mascot as opposed to the official logo is that it's friendly and cute, and I feel a shell would be more in line with that. Armor feels somewhat militaristic to me.

Shnatsel (Dec 08 2018 at 22:01, on Zulip):

I'd leave armor and shields to more serious, somber projects such as RustSec. For WG logo I'd rather have something welcoming and cheery.

Shnatsel (Dec 09 2018 at 16:56, on Zulip):

RustFest Rome talk recordings have a Ferris in a roman helmet on the splash screen: https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=kGj-Fxg5txQ

Tony Arcieri (Dec 09 2018 at 17:26, on Zulip):

heh nice

Tony Arcieri (Dec 16 2018 at 22:34, on Zulip):

@Shnatsel alright, I think this is my "final" logo entry https://github.com/rust-secure-code/wg/issues/1#issuecomment-447682645

Shnatsel (Dec 16 2018 at 22:58, on Zulip):

Interesting, making a different crab is not something that's occurred to me. Although it kind of makes me think "Rust-related external tool or dialect" rather than "WG focused on Rust itself". I'll try out a design with Ferris and post it to the thread.

Tony Arcieri (Dec 16 2018 at 23:05, on Zulip):

I tried sticking a shell like that on Ferris at first and didn't like how it looked

Tony Arcieri (Dec 16 2018 at 23:05, on Zulip):

Ferris isn't really shaped right to be a hermit crab

Shnatsel (Dec 16 2018 at 23:07, on Zulip):

Yeah, that's true. I still want to try though. Ferris is so iconic.

Shnatsel (Dec 16 2018 at 23:07, on Zulip):

A plushie of Ferris is on its way to me and I'm totally not biased, not even a little bit :)

Tony Arcieri (Dec 16 2018 at 23:10, on Zulip):

haha, I too have a Ferris plushie :wink:

Shnatsel (Dec 16 2018 at 23:14, on Zulip):

I also want to try circular gradients on the shell

Shnatsel (Dec 23 2018 at 16:20, on Zulip):

Okay, here's the general direction I'm headed in for the logo: Screenshot-from-2018-12-23-17.16.49.png
Gonna add spikes further up the spiral as well and polish the placement of these ones. Critique is very welcome

Shnatsel (Dec 23 2018 at 16:21, on Zulip):

shell color is a placeholder, please disregard it for now

Shnatsel (Dec 23 2018 at 16:23, on Zulip):

I've been staring at it for an hour and can no longer tell if it's good or not, so even feedback that literally says "looks meh" would be helpful

Shnatsel (Dec 23 2018 at 16:40, on Zulip):

Turns out this totally doesn't work in 64px size and is rather imbalanced visually when put in a square frame, so I'll redraw the spiral from scratch. Inkscape's "icon preview" is such a useful feature

Zach Reizner (Dec 23 2018 at 17:01, on Zulip):

My apologies for slow feedback. I've been back home with family for end of year.

Zach Reizner (Dec 23 2018 at 17:02, on Zulip):

I like the gradient of crab but agree that the shell may be too detailed at low resolutions.

Tony Arcieri (Dec 24 2018 at 16:59, on Zulip):

heh, he's got liberty spikes :wink:

Shnatsel (Dec 24 2018 at 18:43, on Zulip):

Screenshot-from-2018-12-24-19.39.19-cleanup.png another shell iteration. No longer wildly imbalanced visually. Looks good at 64px but too plain otherwise. I'll try with the spikes.

Shnatsel (Dec 24 2018 at 18:53, on Zulip):

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Shnatsel (Dec 24 2018 at 19:25, on Zulip):

Screenshot-from-2018-12-24-20.24.27.png Which is better? Left, center, right?

Shnatsel (Dec 24 2018 at 19:28, on Zulip):

these are still kinda rough, each concept can be done better, I just need to pick one direction to explore first

Shnatsel (Dec 24 2018 at 19:38, on Zulip):

I'm leaning towards the left one, it's the most Ferris-y

Tony Arcieri (Dec 24 2018 at 20:22, on Zulip):

the rightmost one kinda looks like a turban... the center and left both look more like a shell

Zach Reizner (Dec 24 2018 at 20:23, on Zulip):

I like center most because of the spikes. It feels more proactive

Tony Arcieri (Dec 24 2018 at 20:23, on Zulip):

haha

Tony Arcieri (Dec 24 2018 at 20:24, on Zulip):

the center one looks really busy to me, especially since Ferris's source design is flat

Tony Arcieri (Dec 24 2018 at 20:25, on Zulip):

could probably accomplish the same thing using alternating colors instead of strokes for a flat design

Tony Arcieri (Dec 24 2018 at 20:25, on Zulip):

something kind of like this maybe, heh https://vignette.wikia.nocookie.net/fantendo/images/1/16/3D_red_spiny_shell.png/revision/latest/scale-to-width-down/562?cb=20111010203148

Tony Arcieri (Dec 24 2018 at 20:26, on Zulip):

(spiked shell from MarioKart)

Shnatsel (Dec 24 2018 at 22:08, on Zulip):

The center one feels rather unfriendly. I think the point of Ferris is that it's friendly and cute, otherwise we'd just stick to the official logo.

Shnatsel (Dec 24 2018 at 22:09, on Zulip):

Alternating colors is good advice actually, thanks

Shnatsel (Dec 24 2018 at 22:15, on Zulip):

@Zach Reizner you have nothing to apologize for, nobody is expected to monitor a community chat 24/7, especially on holidays. And that was pretty fast feedback actually

Shnatsel (Jan 06 2019 at 20:46, on Zulip):

Screenshot-from-2019-01-06-21.36.06.png
I'm still not happy about the tip of the shell, but I feel the basic shape is coming together. But it's entirely possible that I'll wake up tomorrow and decide that both of these are terrible

Shnatsel (Jan 06 2019 at 20:47, on Zulip):

Actually, scratch that, I'm going to decide that both of these are terrible right now

Shnatsel (Jan 06 2019 at 20:50, on Zulip):

Screenshot-from-2019-01-06-21.50.11.png there, a bit better

Shnatsel (Jan 06 2019 at 20:51, on Zulip):

critique is still very welcome

Tony Arcieri (Jan 06 2019 at 21:12, on Zulip):

I'd say it evokes this for me, but upon actually looking at it, maybe I'm just crazy https://cdn.getyourguide.com/img/tour_img-823003-148.jpg

Tony Arcieri (Jan 06 2019 at 21:13, on Zulip):

maybe what I was actually thinking of was https://i.imgur.com/R2gIBZk.jpg

Shnatsel (Jan 06 2019 at 22:30, on Zulip):

Hmm. Does anyone else feel that way?

Shnatsel (Jan 13 2019 at 22:03, on Zulip):

Screenshot-from-2019-01-13-22.56.35.png
I could improve this indefinitely, but due to the impending deadline I'm ready to proclaim the one on the left my final proposal.

Shnatsel (Jan 13 2019 at 22:06, on Zulip):

Oh wow, Hermes looks so cute in 64px: Screenshot-from-2019-01-13-23.05.17.png

Shnatsel (Mar 02 2019 at 14:15, on Zulip):

@Joshua Liebow-Feeser any word on the results of community voting on the logo?

Gerardo Di Giacomo (Mar 02 2019 at 19:17, on Zulip):

is there an "official" poll where people can vote?

Joshua Liebow-Feeser (Mar 05 2019 at 06:47, on Zulip):

@Shnatsel Sorry, it totally slipped off my radar. Do you have a list of which entries you'd like to be in that poll? Maybe just a list of image URLs? I can post the poll during Pacific Time tomorrow.

Tony Arcieri (Mar 05 2019 at 15:49, on Zulip):

@Joshua Liebow-Feeser maybe post a final call for entries on the issue? mine is here https://user-images.githubusercontent.com/797/50104652-75f78000-01df-11e9-900e-bfba56e22881.png

Joshua Liebow-Feeser (Mar 05 2019 at 15:50, on Zulip):

@Tony Arcieri I already did that a while ago; I just never followed up with a poll afterwards lol

Joshua Liebow-Feeser (Mar 05 2019 at 15:50, on Zulip):

My question is simpler - what is the set of image URLs that we'd like to be in the running? Since you and Shnatsel have been more involved in the logo process, I figured I'd let you make that call.

Tony Arcieri (Mar 05 2019 at 15:55, on Zulip):

haha right ok

Tony Arcieri (Mar 05 2019 at 15:55, on Zulip):

well there's my URL

Joshua Liebow-Feeser (Mar 05 2019 at 20:20, on Zulip):

If you give me a list of which URLs you'd like to have in the poll, I can put it up. As much as I'd like to do a poll with only your submission :P

Shnatsel (Mar 05 2019 at 22:51, on Zulip):

Here's mine: https://user-images.githubusercontent.com/291257/53842772-b5449a00-3fa0-11e9-959b-78f61b058edf.png

Joshua Liebow-Feeser (Mar 05 2019 at 23:14, on Zulip):

There were definitely more links than those two. Are we sure those are the only two we want in the running?

Tony Arcieri (Mar 05 2019 at 23:33, on Zulip):

maybe give a last last call on the GitHub issue

Joshua Liebow-Feeser (Mar 05 2019 at 23:33, on Zulip):

OK.

Shnatsel (Mar 05 2019 at 23:38, on Zulip):

There were other submissions... from us two :sweat_smile:
Looking through the history of github issue, you have already done a last call in January

Joshua Liebow-Feeser (Mar 05 2019 at 23:39, on Zulip):

Well, this one's the LAST last call :P

Joshua Liebow-Feeser (Mar 05 2019 at 23:57, on Zulip):

OK so to clarify, those are the only two submissions we want to count? No submissions from anybody besides you guys?

Joshua Liebow-Feeser (Mar 05 2019 at 23:57, on Zulip):

(and you don't want to submit other of your own designs?)

Tony Arcieri (Mar 05 2019 at 23:58, on Zulip):

I'm fine with the one. maybe give others a bit to respond via the GH issue then cut it off

Joshua Liebow-Feeser (Mar 11 2019 at 21:21, on Zulip):

Poll: https://twitter.com/joshlf_/status/1105216891075747841

Joshua Liebow-Feeser (Mar 12 2019 at 02:46, on Zulip):

OK looks like it's very definitely this one: https://user-images.githubusercontent.com/291257/53842772-b5449a00-3fa0-11e9-959b-78f61b058edf.png

Joshua Liebow-Feeser (Mar 12 2019 at 02:46, on Zulip):

63 to 11

Joshua Liebow-Feeser (Mar 12 2019 at 02:47, on Zulip):

I'll keep the poll open until tomorrow, but I doubt it'll swing by then.

Zach Reizner (Mar 12 2019 at 02:59, on Zulip):

I like that one because it has gear teeth on the shell, sort of like the Rust Gear logo

Joshua Liebow-Feeser (Mar 12 2019 at 06:29, on Zulip):

@Tony Arcieri Whenever you get the time, I guess you can go ahead and put that logo in the appropriate places. @Shnatsel should we have an SVG version of it? Do you have one?

Shnatsel (Mar 12 2019 at 08:22, on Zulip):

The SVG is already attached in a zip file on github: https://github.com/rust-secure-code/wg/files/2933464/hermit-ferris-hires-vector.zip

Shnatsel (Mar 12 2019 at 08:31, on Zulip):

And... hermit Ferris won? Wow. I was prepared to lose.

Shnatsel (Mar 12 2019 at 08:32, on Zulip):

I recall someone on Reddit really liking Hermes and suggesting something like that as logo for embedded WG

Tony Arcieri (Mar 12 2019 at 13:26, on Zulip):

haha yeah I'm conversely a little bit surprised how unpopular Hermes is

Tony Arcieri (Mar 12 2019 at 13:26, on Zulip):

guess everyone's on the Ferris train. c'est la vie

Tony Arcieri (Mar 12 2019 at 13:26, on Zulip):

umm for artwork on other projects I often make a separate repo for design assets because they are big binary blobs and git is otherwise awful at those

Tony Arcieri (Mar 12 2019 at 13:26, on Zulip):

otherwise we can just check them into the WG repo

Joshua Liebow-Feeser (Mar 12 2019 at 18:09, on Zulip):

Whatever makes the most sense to you.

Tony Arcieri (Mar 12 2019 at 19:51, on Zulip):

probably just the WG repo for now, considering it doesn't really have anything else in it

Tony Arcieri (Mar 12 2019 at 19:52, on Zulip):

unfortunately this is the day before launch day for me so I probably won't have time to get to it for a few days

Tony Arcieri (Mar 12 2019 at 19:53, on Zulip):

https://cosmos.network/launch if you're curious... has Rust-powered key management by your truly :wink:

Joshua Liebow-Feeser (Mar 12 2019 at 20:59, on Zulip):

Oh nice! Good luck with the launch!

Last update: Nov 11 2019 at 22:00UTC