Stream: zulip

Topic: Discord / Zulip


Amir Arafat (Apr 18 2020 at 05:26, on Zulip):

What’s the main difference between the two? Is the whole community moving to zulip?

Josh Triplett (Apr 18 2020 at 06:15, on Zulip):

The whole community isn't. More and more of the developers are, but nobody has especially wanted to invite the immense arguments that would break out if we tried to say "couldn't we all use just one chat service".

spacekookie (Apr 18 2020 at 11:12, on Zulip):

There's other parts that are on matrix. I'm not sure the whole community has to be in one place, especially as it grows bigger and bigger.

scottmcm (Apr 20 2020 at 02:23, on Zulip):

@Amir Arafat The biggest difference to me seems to be that the "topics" here make it much easier to respond to a previous conversation, and thus is better for asynchronous communication, whereas Discord is more like a water cooler, better for nearly-synchronous communication but difficult if there are multiple conversations happening at once.

So I expect we'll continue to have both, but it seems like durable conversations are moving here whereas things like helping beginners who show up stays on Discord.

RalfJ (Apr 20 2020 at 07:37, on Zulip):

I don't get the "water cooler" reference here...

Tshepang Lekhonkhobe (Apr 20 2020 at 09:01, on Zulip):

in offices, the water cooler is where people would have unplanned meets, talking about this and that

DPC (Apr 20 2020 at 11:43, on Zulip):

and don't forget the coffee/smoke breaks where you can go out and talk bad about the company xD

Santiago Pastorino (Apr 20 2020 at 15:09, on Zulip):

scottmcm said:

Amir Arafat The biggest difference to me seems to be that the "topics" here make it much easier to respond to a previous conversation, and thus is better for asynchronous communication, whereas Discord is more like a water cooler, better for nearly-synchronous communication but difficult if there are multiple conversations happening at once.

So I expect we'll continue to have both, but it seems like durable conversations are moving here whereas things like helping beginners who show up stays on Discord.

very much this. Discord is impossible to follow for me. Of course that depends on the way you interact with this kind of chat systems but it's very easy to find a lot of streams, check the topics and go and just check the things you're involved or interested.

RalfJ (Apr 20 2020 at 17:07, on Zulip):

Tshepang Lekhonkhobe said:

in offices, the water cooler is where people would have unplanned meets, talking about this and that

hm I dont even remember seeing water coolers in the (few) offices I have been in^^

Wesley Wiser (Apr 20 2020 at 17:17, on Zulip):

I think it's mostly an American thing. For various reasons, a lot of people don't feel comfortable drinking tap water here so offices typically contract a company to provide spring/filtered water.

Josh Triplett (Apr 20 2020 at 18:01, on Zulip):

@Wesley Wiser @RalfJ We just have a water filtration system and separate taps for "filtered cold water" and "filtered near-boiling water" at the small kitchen.

Josh Triplett (Apr 20 2020 at 18:01, on Zulip):

We have a separate "hanging out and talking" area. But the metaphor remains.

Wesley Wiser (Apr 20 2020 at 18:01, on Zulip):

Yeah, I've seen a lot of newer offices do it that way in the US

Wesley Wiser (Apr 20 2020 at 18:02, on Zulip):

Or "newly renovated" perhaps...

Josh Triplett (Apr 20 2020 at 18:02, on Zulip):

Seems much more economical and less wasteful than bottled water.

RalfJ (Apr 20 2020 at 18:04, on Zulip):

Wesley Wiser said:

I think it's mostly an American thing. For various reasons, a lot of people don't feel comfortable drinking tap water here so offices typically contract a company to provide spring/filtered water.

I dont remember a water cooler in mozilla's portland office either...
but in my head I now substituted it by "(office) kitchen" and then it transfers easily to Europe :D

RalfJ (Apr 20 2020 at 18:05, on Zulip):

but I also never never understood the US habit drinking cooled water even when the outside temperature is moderate and there is AC, so I'd probably see a water cooler and think for myself "ah, water that's too cold to drink, where do I get normally temperated water?" ;)

RalfJ (Apr 20 2020 at 18:06, on Zulip):

"no ice please" is probably my single most used phrase in US restaurants :P

RalfJ (Apr 20 2020 at 18:07, on Zulip):

Wesley Wiser said:

I think it's mostly an American thing. For various reasons, a lot of people don't feel comfortable drinking tap water here so offices typically contract a company to provide spring/filtered water.

one reason being that most US tap water (in my experience) is undrinkable due to how mow chlorine it contains?^^

RalfJ (Apr 20 2020 at 18:07, on Zulip):

(also sorry for derailing this into curious US/Europe cultural differences)

DPC (Apr 20 2020 at 19:31, on Zulip):

reads this while drinking water from the tap directly

scottmcm (Apr 21 2020 at 22:04, on Zulip):

@RalfJ Yeah, I said that without even thinking about how my office doesn't have a literal water cooler either :sweat_smile:

pnkfelix (May 04 2020 at 15:38, on Zulip):

/me moved the digression regarding "water cooler" term over to parallel topic

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