Stream: general

Topic: welcome


Welcome Bot (May 03 2018 at 17:18, on Zulip):

Welcome to #general.

Steve Klabnik (May 03 2018 at 17:34, on Zulip):

:wave:

ag_dubs (May 03 2018 at 18:39, on Zulip):

hello?

ag_dubs (May 03 2018 at 18:39, on Zulip):

no return to send is a bummer

Steve Klabnik (May 03 2018 at 18:39, on Zulip):

it's a checkbox right next to send

ag_dubs (May 03 2018 at 18:39, on Zulip):

does your keyboard have an enter key

Steve Klabnik (May 03 2018 at 18:39, on Zulip):

if you prefer it over control+enter

ag_dubs (May 03 2018 at 18:40, on Zulip):

check box?? i dont see that

ag_dubs (May 03 2018 at 18:40, on Zulip):

ohh

ag_dubs (May 03 2018 at 18:40, on Zulip):

ok

nikomatsakis (May 03 2018 at 18:46, on Zulip):

@Alex Crichton hi =) we're debating if this is tolerable. Well, I think @ag_dubs already made up her mind.

ag_dubs (May 03 2018 at 18:46, on Zulip):

i mean i might warm up to it

ag_dubs (May 03 2018 at 18:46, on Zulip):

it might also depend on how we use it

nikomatsakis (May 03 2018 at 18:46, on Zulip):

c

ag_dubs (May 03 2018 at 18:46, on Zulip):

if we just use it with channels like IRC or gitter i'm FINE

ag_dubs (May 03 2018 at 18:47, on Zulip):

all the other stuff tho is ETOOMUCH

ag_dubs (May 03 2018 at 18:47, on Zulip):

and i feel like it requires teaching and i dont know how that will go with our contributors

ag_dubs (May 03 2018 at 18:47, on Zulip):

like if IRC is intimidating

ag_dubs (May 03 2018 at 18:47, on Zulip):

this is a different type of intimidating

Aaron Turon (May 03 2018 at 18:47, on Zulip):

yeah i too find it surprising hard to figure out how to, er, chat

Steve Klabnik (May 03 2018 at 18:47, on Zulip):

everything is when you haven't used it

ag_dubs (May 03 2018 at 18:47, on Zulip):

yeah i dont like that this is a chat progam and im' like "how to chat"

Steve Klabnik (May 03 2018 at 18:47, on Zulip):

/me shrugs
anyway i just assumed we'd never use this

Steve Klabnik (May 03 2018 at 18:48, on Zulip):

so i wont get my hopes up

Steve Klabnik (May 03 2018 at 18:48, on Zulip):

:p

Aaron Turon (May 03 2018 at 18:48, on Zulip):

though i think the problem is sort of that this isn't "chat" in the traditional sense

ag_dubs (May 03 2018 at 18:48, on Zulip):

right

Aaron Turon (May 03 2018 at 18:48, on Zulip):

it's like a cross between chat and a forum

Steve Klabnik (May 03 2018 at 18:48, on Zulip):

niko re-ignited my hopes, hahah

ag_dubs (May 03 2018 at 18:48, on Zulip):

it's sync reddit

nikomatsakis (May 03 2018 at 18:48, on Zulip):

sorry

ag_dubs (May 03 2018 at 18:48, on Zulip):

which is why i dont think i like it

ag_dubs (May 03 2018 at 18:48, on Zulip):

it might be subconsciously me just not liking forums

nikomatsakis (May 03 2018 at 18:48, on Zulip):

I am somewhere in between. I feel like I could love it but I also grok the confusion and find that .. suboptimal to say the least. =)

nikomatsakis (May 03 2018 at 18:49, on Zulip):

I do suspect that threads, if used properly, coudl be extremely useful

Aaron Turon (May 03 2018 at 18:49, on Zulip):

whoa

Aaron Turon (May 03 2018 at 18:49, on Zulip):

this is kinda wild

Steve Klabnik (May 03 2018 at 18:49, on Zulip):

it's my fav

ag_dubs (May 03 2018 at 18:49, on Zulip):

i need this to autoscroll tho

ag_dubs (May 03 2018 at 18:49, on Zulip):

but i guess that's a small thing

nikomatsakis (May 03 2018 at 18:49, on Zulip):

the autoscroll is a problem

Aaron Turon (May 03 2018 at 18:49, on Zulip):

yes autoscroll plz

nikomatsakis (May 03 2018 at 18:50, on Zulip):

there has to be a pref or something

ag_dubs (May 03 2018 at 18:50, on Zulip):

ah yeah probably

Steve Klabnik (May 03 2018 at 18:50, on Zulip):

i am seeing it scroll
so it's very weird that yinz arent

nikomatsakis (May 03 2018 at 18:50, on Zulip):

right now it sort of is

ag_dubs (May 03 2018 at 18:50, on Zulip):

it sometimes scrolls for me sometimes not

ag_dubs (May 03 2018 at 18:50, on Zulip):

it depends on what i have selected

Alex Crichton (May 03 2018 at 18:50, on Zulip):

test test test test test

Alex Crichton (May 03 2018 at 18:50, on Zulip):

another test

ag_dubs (May 03 2018 at 18:50, on Zulip):

what i ahve selected being load bearing is def a learning curve

nikomatsakis (May 03 2018 at 18:50, on Zulip):

oh also links work

Alex Crichton (May 03 2018 at 18:50, on Zulip):

:does_your_face_work:

nikomatsakis (May 03 2018 at 18:50, on Zulip):

for some reason I find that very important

Alex Crichton (May 03 2018 at 18:50, on Zulip):

:no_bell:

ag_dubs (May 03 2018 at 18:50, on Zulip):

nice

ag_dubs (May 03 2018 at 18:50, on Zulip):

dont click that

Steve Klabnik (May 03 2018 at 18:50, on Zulip):

oh "add video call" is cool

Alex Crichton (May 03 2018 at 18:50, on Zulip):

test again

Alex Crichton (May 03 2018 at 18:50, on Zulip):

gah no auto-scrool?

ag_dubs (May 03 2018 at 18:51, on Zulip):

its not a real link or if it is its a bad one

Steve Klabnik (May 03 2018 at 18:51, on Zulip):

Click to join video call wow

Alex Crichton (May 03 2018 at 18:51, on Zulip):

or not if you scroll up past

ag_dubs (May 03 2018 at 18:51, on Zulip):

@Steve Klabnik is that actually a good vconf thing

Alex Crichton (May 03 2018 at 18:51, on Zulip):

I was all alone :(

nikomatsakis (May 03 2018 at 18:51, on Zulip):

it is jit.si

ag_dubs (May 03 2018 at 18:51, on Zulip):

i'm not familiar

nikomatsakis (May 03 2018 at 18:51, on Zulip):

sort of like appear.in

ag_dubs (May 03 2018 at 18:51, on Zulip):

/me nods

nikomatsakis (May 03 2018 at 18:52, on Zulip):

one strong plus: I am seeing all messages ;)

Alex Crichton (May 03 2018 at 18:52, on Zulip):

was there a config for aut-scroll?

Alex Crichton (May 03 2018 at 18:53, on Zulip):

like there was for enter-to-send?

Alex Crichton (May 03 2018 at 18:53, on Zulip):

I can't imagine the "all messages" view being too useful for us

ag_dubs (May 03 2018 at 18:54, on Zulip):

@Alex Crichton i think it autoscrolls if you ahve the convo selected

ag_dubs (May 03 2018 at 18:54, on Zulip):

but if you have another topic or whatever selected it wont scroll

Alex Crichton (May 03 2018 at 18:54, on Zulip):

/me test

Alex Crichton (May 03 2018 at 18:54, on Zulip):

/me should be able to figure this out

Steve Klabnik (May 03 2018 at 18:54, on Zulip):

yeah i'm not seeing a pref
there are cool prefs though

Steve Klabnik (May 03 2018 at 18:55, on Zulip):

just not that

ag_dubs (May 03 2018 at 18:55, on Zulip):

how does one mod on this?

Aaron Turon (May 03 2018 at 18:55, on Zulip):

one strong plus: I am seeing all messages ;)

too soon

ag_dubs (May 03 2018 at 18:55, on Zulip):

lololol

ag_dubs (May 03 2018 at 18:55, on Zulip):

fff

ag_dubs (May 03 2018 at 18:55, on Zulip):

my autoscroll theory debunked

Alex Crichton (May 03 2018 at 18:55, on Zulip):

@ag_dubs I collapsed your comment aboe

Alex Crichton (May 03 2018 at 18:55, on Zulip):

was that just for me?

ag_dubs (May 03 2018 at 18:55, on Zulip):

yes

Alex Crichton (May 03 2018 at 18:55, on Zulip):

oh I'm probably not a mod

ag_dubs (May 03 2018 at 18:56, on Zulip):

one thing about this... sorta feels redundant to URLO/IRLO?

nikomatsakis (May 03 2018 at 18:57, on Zulip):

because of the threading?

nikomatsakis (May 03 2018 at 18:57, on Zulip):

I've contemplating just moving whole hog to internals :)

nikomatsakis (May 03 2018 at 19:03, on Zulip):

one other thing I would say is that when I was joining chats that already had a lot of ongoing usage and conversations, it felt less confusing to me

ag_dubs (May 11 2018 at 15:51, on Zulip):

huh, interesting

nikomatsakis (May 11 2018 at 17:52, on Zulip):

huh, interesting

eh?

Venkata Ramana (Jun 02 2018 at 05:17, on Zulip):

How I find all the available streams?

nikomatsakis (Jun 02 2018 at 10:12, on Zulip):

there's really only one, #wg-nll; other groups are chatting on Discord

Venkata Ramana (Jun 02 2018 at 13:30, on Zulip):

Thanks @nikomatsakis

Jake Goulding (Jun 03 2018 at 03:43, on Zulip):

@nikomatsakis is there a tracking issue for "move to chalk"? My quick search didn't turn up anything

lqd (Jun 03 2018 at 06:47, on Zulip):

maybe https://github.com/rust-lang/rust/issues/48049

Jake Goulding (Jun 03 2018 at 14:02, on Zulip):

maybe https://github.com/rust-lang/rust/issues/48049

lol. I doubt GH finds "chalkification" for "chalk". Thank you

Bruno Bigras (Jun 27 2018 at 14:05, on Zulip):

I can't imagine the "all messages" view being too useful for us

I learned about Zulip when I saw the 1.8 release post on hacker news. One random guy said that the "all messages" thing was the killer feature.

Bruno Bigras (Jun 27 2018 at 14:05, on Zulip):

I wonder if there's an easy "bring me to the beginning of this conversation" feature.

nikomatsakis (Jun 27 2018 at 17:06, on Zulip):

if you click on the topic itself, you can scroll up pretty easily, is that what you mean?

nikomatsakis (Jun 27 2018 at 17:06, on Zulip):

I don't think All Messages would be useful At Scale

nikomatsakis (Jun 27 2018 at 17:07, on Zulip):

I find it kinda handy now, where only #wg-nll is using this zulip instance

Jake Goulding (Jun 27 2018 at 17:29, on Zulip):

And you can look at all the messages for a specific stream (general / wg-nll / etc.)

Jake Goulding (Jun 27 2018 at 17:30, on Zulip):

which likewise depends on the size of stream

davidtwco (Jun 27 2018 at 17:39, on Zulip):

I do wish more working groups and teams were using Zulip, it's so very nice.

Bruno Bigras (Jun 28 2018 at 05:47, on Zulip):

if you click on the topic itself, you can scroll up pretty easily, is that what you mean?

Clicking on the topic doesn't seem to scroll up much. I would like a way to scroll to the very beginning of the topic. It would be useful for very long topic.
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nikomatsakis (Jun 28 2018 at 10:16, on Zulip):

right, clicking on the topic doesn't (itself) scroll up... I don't know if there is a way to scroll all the way to the top besides doing so manually

nikomatsakis (Jun 28 2018 at 10:16, on Zulip):

maybe file a bug!

nikomatsakis (Jun 28 2018 at 10:16, on Zulip):

https://github.com/zulip/zulip

nikomatsakis (Jun 28 2018 at 10:17, on Zulip):

oh, well, you can also grab the scroll bar on the right of your browser and drag it to the top

Bruno Bigras (Jul 05 2018 at 18:50, on Zulip):

maybe file a bug!

I just did.

oh, well, you can also grab the scroll bar on the right of your browser and drag it to the top

Yes it works. Thanks.

Bruno Bigras (Jul 05 2018 at 19:29, on Zulip):

I got this reply from the lead developer:

The home key can help with this, though it'll paginate in batches of ~100. If you really want the very first messages, do a search within the topic for near:1.

varkor (Jul 06 2018 at 16:46, on Zulip):

where are all the NLL streams?

varkor (Jul 06 2018 at 16:47, on Zulip):

do you have to be part of the WG to see them?

varkor (Jul 06 2018 at 16:47, on Zulip):

I wanted to see how Zulip worked for some proper development discussions

lqd (Jul 06 2018 at 16:47, on Zulip):

@varkor pasted image

varkor (Jul 06 2018 at 16:47, on Zulip):

oh, it doesn't come up in the streams at the side automatically — you have to specifically opt in in settings...

varkor (Jul 06 2018 at 16:48, on Zulip):

@lqd: that doesn't show up for me by default

lqd (Jul 06 2018 at 16:48, on Zulip):

weird :/

davidtwco (Jul 06 2018 at 16:48, on Zulip):

Admins are able to change what the default streams are.

davidtwco (Jul 06 2018 at 16:48, on Zulip):

Otherwise you need to click the little cog and opt-in to them.

varkor (Jul 06 2018 at 16:48, on Zulip):

I see

davidtwco (Jul 06 2018 at 16:48, on Zulip):

(similar to Slack channels)

varkor (Jul 06 2018 at 16:57, on Zulip):

and the blue box when I scroll — presumably there's a shortcut to quote that particular message?
(is there any way to turn it off if it's distracting?)

davidtwco (Jul 06 2018 at 17:08, on Zulip):

You can click the little arrow on the right when you're hovering over the message and there's a "copy link" option.

davidtwco (Jul 06 2018 at 17:08, on Zulip):

I've never tried to turn the blue box off.

davidtwco (Jul 06 2018 at 17:08, on Zulip):

Shortcuts probably use that blue box though, I haven't checked, the little keyboard icon on the bottom right of the whole page lists shortcuts.

davidtwco (Jul 06 2018 at 17:13, on Zulip):

A cursory search says that there's no way to disable the blue box.

davidtwco (Jul 06 2018 at 17:13, on Zulip):

Might be worth an issue or a message in #feedback on chat.zulipchat.com if it's particularly distracting.

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